Just announced!
∙
Download The Physicians Guide to AI, a new book from Offcall and MD+.Download here.
  • Products
      • Salary
      • Referrals
  • Learn
  • About
Offcall Footer Background
ProductsSalaryReferrals
ResourcesLearnAboutContactFix Referrals ManifestoPrivacy PolicyTerms and Conditions
Apps
apple

Download on the

App Store
google

GET IT ON

Google Play
In the browser
Follow us
Sign up for Offcall's newsletter
Copyright © 2026 Offcall All Rights Reserved
Podcast

Cut Out the Middleman, Keep the Patients: Dr. Chloe Kindred on Building a Direct Primary Care Practice From Zero

Offcall Team
Offcall Team
  1. Learn
  2. Podcast
  3. Cut Out the Middleman, Keep the Patients: Dr. Chloe Kindred on Building a Direct Primary Care Practice From Zero

Key Podcast Moments

  • Chloe traces the exact sequence that broke her employed job: three colleagues gone within a few months, and their patients funneled straight onto her own schedule
  • Graham and Chloe identify the moment the system revealed its actual priorities, when a request to simply pause new patients was met with "no one does that here"
  • Chloe recounts submitting her resignation with zero financial plan in place, then reversing it twelve hours later
  • Chloe shares what happened when an unscripted, no-makeup Instagram post to 50 followers hit 30,000 views by the next morning
  • Chloes make the case that direct primary care is not a lifestyle downgrade but a structural fix to a compensation model physicians never actually controlled

Every physician who has worked inside an employed, insurance-based practice knows the feeling of watching a panel grow past the point they can safely manage it. You raise it with someone. You're told there's no mechanism for that. You keep going anyway, because the patients are already on the schedule and someone has to see them. This is not a story about one physician's breaking point. It is the predictable output of a system that has no ceiling built into it.

In this episode of How I Doctor, Dr. Graham Walker sits down with Dr. Chloe Kindred, a family physician who spent three years in a hospital-affiliated system in Central Florida before leaving to launch Kindred Family Medicine, a direct primary care practice opening this October. Chloe started with a manageable, freshly built panel and felt genuinely prepared for life as an attending. Then, about a year in, two physicians and a nurse practitioner in her office all gave notice within a few months of each other, and patients who wanted to stay in the same physical office funneled onto her schedule. Her panel tripled almost overnight, and what made it unmanageable wasn't just visit volume, it was the labs, specialist notes, refill requests, and messages that scale with panel size whether or not visit slots do.

The consequences were not abstract. Chloe describes asking her health system directly to pause new patient intake until she could get her bearings, and being told plainly that no one closes their panel, that's simply not something the system does. She resigned soon after with zero financial plan in place, then rescinded the resignation within twelve hours. The system quietly closed her panel to new patients anyway, without ever officially granting the request she'd made weeks earlier. The event that actually ended her employment came later and was almost administrative in tone: an email asking her to sign a "standardized" contract as a formality. Reading it that night, she found her entire compensation structure had been rewritten underneath her.

Graham and Chloe spend the back half of the conversation on what Chloe built once she decided to leave for good: pricing her subscription against other direct primary care practices in the region, sizing her panel around 300 to 400 patients, and choosing a single platform to handle both charting and billing. They also get into the part neither of them expected, an unscripted Instagram post that hit 800,000+ views and helped pre-enroll 230 patients before Chloe had seen a single one. The argument underneath all of it is straightforward: independent practice is not a smaller, riskier version of employed medicine. For Chloe, it's the version where the terms of her own compensation belong to her, not to whoever sends the next "standardized" contract.

Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for supporting the podcast:

Evidently - Leading AI-powered clinical data intelligence https://evidently.com/

Top 4 Takeaways

Chloe's story is bigger than one physician's frustration with a bad job. What Graham and Chloe surface in this conversation are the structural forces that let an employed panel grow without limit, and what it actually took for one physician to opt out of that arrangement entirely.

Sign up for free

Join Offcall to keep reading and access exclusive resources for and by the medical community.

Offcall Team
Written by Offcall Team

Offcall Team is the official Offcall account.

podcast

Comments

(0)

Join the conversation

See what your colleagues are saying and add your opinion.

Trending


27 Aug 2026The Physician-Owned Practice That Private Equity Can't Buy With Dr. Bradley Block
0
76
0
10 Sep 2026These Physicians Explain Why They'd Never Go Back to Being Employed
0
66
0
03 Sep 2026Medicine Is Headed Toward Semi-Autonomous Care. Are Doctors Ready? With Counsel Health CMO Rishi Khakhkhar
0
65
0